#204 How Personal Storytelling Builds Confidence, Clarity, and Career Readiness with Jackie Bailey Transcript

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Lisa Marker-Robbins 0:56
If your young person freezes when asked a real question or struggles to explain who they are beyond grades and activities. Well, you’re not alone. Colleges and future employers are paying close attention to how young people communicate, and many really brilliant kids cannot clearly share their own story. Developing a signature talk can change that when your child learns to name the experiences that shape them, the values that matter most and the problems they care about solving, they begin to understand who they are, how they are wired and how they want to make impact. That self awareness shows up everywhere, from college essays and scholarship interviews to job shadows, dinner table conversations and even the path they choose when they connect who they are to their future career, my personal passion today, I’m joined by Jackie Bailey, founder of the Speak feed Lead Project, and an international conversation coach who has helped hundreds of kids and adults speak on global stages, including TEDx. Together, we dig into how your young person can build a library of stories, why passion often follows opportunity, and how speaking with confidence supports mental health decision making and success in college and career. If you’re raising a bright but quiet young person or one with plenty to say, who struggles to organize their thoughts. This conversation will give you practical ways to draw out their voice and link it to purpose and future plans. I’m Lisa Marco Robbins. I want to welcome you to College and Career Clarity a flourish coaching production. Let’s dive right into a great conversation. You Hi. Jackie Bailey, welcome to the show.

Jackie Bailey 2:45
Hi Lisa. It’s great to be here. I really appreciate the opportunity.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 2:49
Well, I we have a lot, I think in common. We like we’re serving slightly different needs for those that we work with, but there’s so much overlap. So I was so thankful for our mutual connection, Cami, for introducing us, because I think this is going to be a really rich conversation. Let’s start with so your husband and you have a business speak well,

Jackie Bailey 3:10
sort of, I mean, sort of, kind of, sort of, kind of, I’m the founder of a nonprofit, and he is currently the president of the board of directors. Okay, so that’s the way that we kind of partner together.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 3:23
Okay, so tell us about your business that supports young people. Well, it’s called the Speak feed Lead Project. Love it.

Jackie Bailey 3:32
Oh, and it basically defines what we do in the title, which is that we help people to speak with power. We help them to feed others in word and deed, not necessarily by mouth. Food, we teach them to be exceptional leaders as well and to lead with positive influence. And so feed Lead Project is our way of giving that opportunity to both young people and adults to fulfill all of those things, to make them, you know, exceptional, influential leaders.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 4:05
I love that. What is the age group that you guys work with? Because I know we’ve got some overlap, but you’ve even worked with some younger students than ours.

Jackie Bailey 4:13
Yeah, I’ve coached kids one to one as young as nine years old, but most of our programs seem to work best for the kids that are around 10 and up, I feel like by that point, they’ve they can understand ways to communicate a little bit better, and they can also give feedback, which is the part of our feed in our title. They can give feedback to others in in a great way.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 4:39
Yeah, that makes sense. So we’re working with 15 to 25 year olds, and I know that you know we both are working with that age group. So one of the things that you guys help students do, and people, really of any age, is to understand what their signature talk is. And can you define what a signature talk. Talk is, and the way that you guys look at it,

Jackie Bailey 5:03
sure, a signature talk is the unique message that each person has to give based on their personal life experience and the lessons learned from those experiences. And the reason I feel it’s important is because when you know what you would say if given an opportunity to talk for five minutes about the most important message you’d have to give in five minutes, if you know what that is, then you also have a sense of your core values. You know your character, and you understand a little bit of what your purpose is for being here, and by knowing that young people that we work with, I know will never consider taking their lives, because they understand not only the value that they personally have and contribution they can bring it, but they recognize that everybody else has the same value. And if they just spent time talking to that person and learning their story, learning their signature talk, if you will, that they would also find value in that person.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 6:18
Well, it’s like through that communication, even though that other person might not understand the concept of having a signature talk and being clear on their values and all the things you still can get to what somebody what would be part of their signature talk when you understand your own right?

Jackie Bailey 6:35
Yeah, you will you learn what types of questions you can ask someone really dive deep beyond the 30,000 foot courtesy type questions that we ask people. How are you today? You know that’s so rote that we’ve come to just recognize that no one really wants to know the answer to that question. It’s sort of something we ask in passing. But if you know how to dive a little bit deeper, and the types of questions that will help you to do that. Now you can really focus in on learning something interesting or new about everybody that you talk to.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 7:10
It was interesting. We, in our Career Clarity, work with the 15 to 25 year olds. Everybody takes the Berkman personality assessment. So it’s a I mean, there’s so many assessments out there, but this is my favorite, and I’m master certified in it. And we start with that, because it really looks deeply at like who we are in our I say our personality DNA, right? So what motivates me? What are my strengths? What do I expect from other people in my environment, that’s really the secret sauce of the Berkman that kind of sets it apart. And then we talk them through their values. But we always say, like you start with your own Berkman first, because when you understand your own wiring deeply, then you can understand others. Because we do kind of understand everybody else through the lens of our our our own lens, right? Our lens of self first. So we’ve got to start with self knowledge before we can really start to deeply understand other people.

Jackie Bailey 8:10
Yeah, and I’ve seen that with the young people that we’ve worked with, when they begin to understand what life’s lessons have taught them and how it’s shaped them to who and why they are, everything changes for them, and they understand what is in alignment for them and what is not. So that also leads to better decision making, right? Because if you can decide you know what, that doesn’t feel like, it fits who I really am, then I’m going to avoid doing that. But on the other hand, if I’m being given this opportunity, and that really fits with who I am, what I’ve learned, and what I feel like I want to give back to the world, then that’s that’s easy, you know?

Lisa Marker-Robbins 8:54
Yeah, absolutely. Well, we talk, and this is part of like a there’s a lot of mindset work with the work that we do, and I’m sure that you do right? Actually, one of the first little lessons we put in our course is how to mind your mindset as we set about this really deep and important work that we’re going to do. And so, you know, as we’re thinking about what’s in alignment when it comes from at least a career place, I see young people, and I wonder, if you see this too, where, like, we work on not only understanding yourself and then connecting it to career awareness, but then we want to validate those career options, and that’s where the alignment piece comes in. I always think about a chiropractor right getting in there and giving us an adjustment to make sure we’re feeling our best and we’re if you believe in chiropractic, chiropractic, not everybody does, but you know, you’re in alignment, you’re feeling good in your body, right? And so I’ve seen students go like, Oh, I did this experience that was supposed to validate what i thought i. Wanted to do, and I figured out that it was out of alignment, either with my wiring or my values. And they look at that oftentimes, like they’re really disappointed. And I’m like, that’s a win. Like, yeah, absolutely. You know, validation isn’t just getting to to Yes, yes, eventually you need to get to a yes, but validation is fit or no fit, right, absolutely. So I’m curious. So when we start, we’re looking at like, how your wire, what your values are, but we don’t expect them to come to us knowing that. So when us, when a student wants to develop a signature talk. What do they have to know before they can create one and and who’s a good like, where do you even start? Do they need to know some of these things? Or do you guide them through to exploring them?

Jackie Bailey 10:53
Most of the kids, if you would, the young people that I’ve worked with and I’ve begun to assess, if you would ask them, Do you feel like there’s a message you would give? Like, again, if you had five minutes to talk to the world, that would say in that five minutes now, I did, at one time, ask my grandson, who then was nine years old. He was actually a guest on my podcast, because we were talking about leadership, and I wanted to hear what a nine year old might have to say, and I asked him that question. I said, Sam, if the whole world came into your living room and said, tell us the best, the most important thing you know, Sam, what would that be? And he said, well, first of all, Grandma, I tell him to get out of my living room. Then I tell them that they need to get off the video games and spend time with their family. So at nine years old, he knew he had something important to say, and certainly, there’s a lot of people in the world that need to hear that message, even from a nine year old boy. So a lot of kids know it. They they can think about what they say, because they’ve they’ve had experience where they’ve learned something is important to them, but I would say most kids don’t they don’t really recognize that the experiences they’ve had in life have really shaped their personality and their values and who they are. So I start by asking them some questions. One of the ones I might start with is tell me three of your greatest accomplishments, with an accomplishment being something that you set a goal to do, and over time, we’re able to achieve whatever that goal is. And you know, a lot of kids, they don’t, especially girls, we don’t always look at those positive experiences we’ve had, but when they’re given an opportunity to boy, they come up with amazing things that maybe we wouldn’t consider amazing, but for them, it was a really big deal. But on the converse side of that too, by asking, What have been some of your what are the three greatest failures, you’ve had meaning again, that you set a goal, you had expectations in yourself for achieving it, and somehow you didn’t meet your own expectations. That’s that’s kind of a failure for me, right? Define it that way. And so again, when they look at that, now we can see, okay, what did it take to achieve those things and what was missing? When failure happened, and they start to just think about, yeah, what do I know about myself and and a lot of people will learn, yeah, when I do this, this and this, I usually reach my goals. But when I don’t do this, this or this, or I do this, this and this instead, then I’m usually going to fail at what I wanted. And we can see that now you’ve got some stories that you can or experiences that can turn into stories that are going to inspire somebody else. Because I feel like a signature talk, the outline for that would be something like, here’s some mistakes I made, and I’m going to tell you how you can avoid making some of my same mistakes, and how you can have more success in these other areas because you do something different. You know, that’s kind of the gist. Right message might look like, right and just know that they have that to share.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 14:22
Oh, for and I want to go back to something about your grandson, when he was that age, you know. And he said, get away from the video games, right? Or it could be like, put your phone down, right? Like mine’s on Do Not reminds on airplane mode right now, but like, put your phone down is maybe even more powerful coming from a nine year old than 56 year old here, or, you know, whatever age, right? So I love the I love the power in giving the kids a voice in that. So one of the things I wonder, and this is I have people ask me about this all the time. You know, people, well meaning people when it comes to. A Career Clarity piece that we’re working on, we’ll say like, oh, find your passion, right? And I have found that for today’s young people, that feels very pressure filled, like there’s this one thing out there that I have to be so passionate about, that I have to discover that one thing, and then I have to go do that. And so I have found, you know, throughout life that my passion shift based on life circumstances. I’ve seen passions. I believe that passion can increase as proficiency increases on things that we’re exposed to based on our needs. You know, I even go back to like I was. I became gluten free about 12 years ago, and through that process, I became very passionate about eating healthy. I went all organic, low sugar, all the crazy things that my family got caught on me for in which they can keep making fun of me. But like, passions shift. So if, if you’re starting the process on this finding what is the purpose that you would bring into the world and talk to somebody about and you’re working with that with somebody as young as 10, but I know you guys work with a lot of high schoolers, and you work with older people as well. I get the question all the time, like, How can my teen get Career Clarity when they’re going to continue to develop the world of work is rapidly changing, and you know, my answer to that is when it’s rooted in who we are, we have a deep sense of self. While there will be shifts, they’re not like swings. Like, you know, when we engineer computer engineered a social worker, like, there couldn’t be two things probably more different, right? So if somebody’s developing a signature talk as a teen or a young adult, does their signature talk change over time?

Jackie Bailey 17:07
Oh, yeah, it does, because we’re going to continue to have experiences in life, and even though we may recognize early on what our core values are and our core values, they can change too, but they don’t shift as much. I mean, either we right in this or we don’t, and if we do, we typically stay with that belief, yeah, you know, until something major might happen in life. But yeah. But as far as understanding what our unique message is for the world, it’s always going to be changing, or at least it’s going to be added to. Because what I see happening that’s really powerful is creating a library of stories based on life experiences, and depending upon who you might need to share information with. Let’s just call it a stage, and a stage could be a one to one conversation with somebody. It could also be talking to your family across the dinner table, or it could literally be standing on a stage with an audience listening to you, right? But we’re on stage. You know, Shakespeare called Life a stage. Here we are when you have an opportunity to share something about yourself. It’s based on what has just happened or what your life experience has been up to that point, and you you kind of pick and choose well, which stories are more relevant for this conversation or for this particular audience, but you might have 20 more that you could use at another time. So yes, it’s changing, and yet it’s just it’s growing. It’s changing because it’s growing. Yeah, and your library is getting bigger and bigger, but I would say for the most part, the things that we believe most strongly in kind of stay consistent.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 18:54
I would agree with you on the values piece. We have a we have an interactive drag and drop like, gamified values tool that we do and and like, at least your top five in your medium by like, they might move a little bit, but yeah, I think that they’re pretty, pretty much cemented right by the time that we’re heading, or at least graduating and things like that.

Jackie Bailey 19:20
So I will use my grandson as an example. Yeah, he’s 16 now, and I don’t think he plays video games that often, but he values his family highly, even though, in in all those years, now that he’s had new experiences, he his his story has expanded, his experience has expanded, but his values, of of rating his family high in priority is,

Lisa Marker-Robbins 19:46
yeah, it’s still there. I love that. So when you’re working with these, because it sounds like you kind of have a repeatable process, that once they’ve done one signature talk, they can edit it. They can and I know you try to even get. Kids on TEDx stages, right? Yeah. What’s the value in landing a kid on a TEDx stage? Like, I mean, everybody goes, whoo, but what’s the real like, life outcomes for those types of experiences?

Jackie Bailey 20:14
Well, a TEDx talk is a very unique animal in itself, because it’s specific in the organization of your topic. So with TEDx, you are to share a new idea with the audience based on a problem that you personally have an emotional connection to, and you can identify another demographic of people that likely have experienced that same problem, and then, how did you solve it for yourself? And then you’re sharing this solution that I found might also work for you. So the value, then of a TEDx talk for a young person is instilling in them the idea that I solved a problem, I found something that was not good for me, and identifying other people that also have had that experience and how they solved it for themselves, and now they’re saying, yeah, here’s something that you can try and so it’s logical for them. But there’s also the inspirational piece that you can say to an audience. This might work for you too. For instance, one of the youth that we have coached to that particular stage, she started at nine years old, she came to me knowing what she wanted to talk about, because she had type one diabetes.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 21:43
And first of all, I was like, wow. A nine year old knew what she wanted to talk about already.

Jackie Bailey 21:48
She wanted to talk about because, when she was diagnosed with type one diabetes, which a million kids a year are, right, it changed her. She was this outgoing, young, sweet girl that liked to do lots of things, but when she then became so different from her schoolmates, she couldn’t eat with them. She often couldn’t play on the playground with them. Sometimes she had to miss class time to go into the nurse’s office to, you know, get shots or be tested or whatever. And she couldn’t even go to birthday parties herself, because her parents had to monitor what she was eating, and they had to be there to give her shots and stuff. It changed her life at five years old, and yet, she had found a way to alleviate a lot of those issues by creating this little pack. She called it her mom pouch. Mom stood for manage, my own manager, right? My own manager. So it was the mom pouch, and so she had in this pouch things that she needed for comfort, snacks, of course, diabetic, insulin, that kind of stuff. But she’d created this herself and carried it with her and allowed her parents then to give her a little bit more autonomy and independence to be able to manage this herself, and of course, she had a monitor. So she learned by the time she was nine how to take care of herself, how to give shots, how to test her blood, what the readings meant, that kind of thing. So when she got on a TEDx stage, she talked about not the medical side of diabetes is not what they want, but how it changed her, and how there’s a million kids every year being diagnosed and likely having the same go in my shell kind of moments. Yeah, she did, but how they can open that shell back up by managing things on their own? And so that’s just really one example of how empowering that is for a young person. And now she’s 13, and she is a spokesperson for some of the diabetic juvenile diabetic associations around the country. So she made her mark, yeah, by solving that problem for herself. And that’s what a TEDx talk can do.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 23:51
Well, you know what it makes me think of one of our students, Nathan, who he has Tourette’s, and he he went through our Career Clarity process, and he knows that he wants to major in finance and management in college. He’s a senior in high school right now applying to colleges, and we worked with him sophomore into through junior year. And he recently created a 5k here in the Cincinnati area to raise money. Raise $33,000 in the first year that they did it. He was mentioned from stage at the trade associations annual meeting in New York City. I probably am butchering the official name of their organization. So Don’t, don’t send me an email about that. Everybody I know, but yet, like he’s not going to work in nonprofits. He’s not going to work with that association, necessarily. He’s really got his eye on something else career wise, but the real life skills that he. Learn through creating the 5k running it, getting volunteers, all the things really are like, life changes, changers for him, like, and they’re going to serve him in his career and beyond. Like, ultimately. So you’re helping, you know, signature talk or a TED talk, I guess they’re slightly they can be slightly different, like probably how they’re laid out, right? Yes, you’re helping identify through the process they come out, identifying values and purpose and things like that, and how to connect with other people. What other what are the other benefits? And how is this helping your students be successful? Because I can only imagine that the kids come out of the program and you know, they’re graduating high school and they’re moving on, whether it’s college or straight to career or some other training, vocational training, what are the ancillary benefits that are coming out of the process that you feel like are serving the bigger picture as they launch into adulthood.

Jackie Bailey 26:03
That’s such a great question. Lisa, thank you for asking that. And I’m going to jump back for just one second, yeah, defining that passion idea that we talked about earlier, because I think that passion comes from opportunity, when we take opportunity to do something new, or try something or accept an invitation, we might find a new passion that we have. So along those lines, then when, when kids like that, TEDx speaker I was telling you about says, I want to share what I learned, and she takes the opportunity to do that, that becomes her passion, and then that passion blossoms into being able to serve other people based on her personal story that she can continue to share. And I can’t even imagine the numbers of children that she’s inspiring, right? So that’s where passion can grow from. But as she gets older, she’s still, she’s not going to be a juvenile diabetes speech anymore, but she’ll still, maybe she’ll go into working for, you know, diabetes foundation or something. I don’t know, but that’s just kind of a way to see how the passion can grow even when values stay the same. So some of the benefits, then, of a young person knowing their signature talk, and I think there’s value in this, I know there’s value in this, even if they never plan to speak on a stage. Yeah, it just goes back the idea of knowing who I am, how I am. How did I get here, in other words, and why? Why do I need to now be here? What’s the purpose that I have, and how am I going to contribute to other people? So I know that a lot of colleges these days are requiring some sort of a personal essay or a personal video, and they’re not even necessarily focusing so much on academics anymore, from what I see happening in the world, and you probably know this better than me, is they really want to have activists on their campuses. They want to have young people that, yes, they’re smart, but they want them to be outgoing. They want them to believe in something. They want to show consistency of growth in an area or two, and know that they’re going to bring something to the campus that is going to ignite it’s going to spark ideas. It’s going to do something the kinds of people I think institutions now are looking for. And a lot of these kids, they come to me and they go, I got to write this thing, and I have no idea what to say, because I don’t I haven’t done anything big. I’ve never had any trauma. My parents have been great, you know, I really never had an injury,

Lisa Marker-Robbins 28:47
yeah, imposter syndrome, because we haven’t had trauma in our past. I hate that, right?

Jackie Bailey 28:53
Okay, so they just don’t even know. I want to really get into this college, but I don’t know that I have anything inspiring to say, well, when we can dive into some of the experiences they have had, a lot of times, it’s that they’ve served someone else. A lot of times they have seen somebody else’s mistakes and they’ve decided I’m not doing that right. And so they learn a little bit more about their personality and what they can contribute. And even then, just writing that personal essay becomes so much easier, and they realize, yeah, you know what, I actually have grown a lot. I actually do who I am.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 29:31
Well, when you know, when you think about that, like, like you said, like the getting end piece, right, that it’s not just in the personal statement, the the college essay, aka college essay that they have to write, but it’s there are essays like community there’s a community essay. So what’s a community you belong to? What’s your impact in it? What do you get from it? I’ve seen colleges ask, what’s a topic that you get so interested in that you. Lose all track of time, right, that you’re intellectually curious about. So they are looking for impact. It’s that ripple effect, and it’s, I mean, that’s a large part of why I do the work that I do, because we’re preparing that next generation. So right now, you know, Gen Z to go out and make impact. And we could all probably agree, no matter what your politics, religion or anything else is, the world needs people who are going to make it a better place, right? They’re going to speak, that’s right. They’re going to find their voice, even if communication isn’t the isn’t what they’re going to do for a living, right? There’s it kind of goes back to what you said about what college is a what they’re looking for, but I have the young people particularly so we serve all educational paths on our program, but particularly for the ones that are in college, they will often say to me, like, Oh, I think I had so many AP credits in high school, I might have room for a second Major. Should I get do a second major or a minor, right? And they’re trying to make these curricular decisions on what they’re going to study, and it’s very individualized. So the answer I give, usually it’s this is asked of me during our group Q and A time, so I can give a very individualized answer. However, the the general answer for everybody listening to the podcast is you actually are better served to go work on your soft skills such as communication or go get some real world experiences, job shadows, informational interviews, internships, get a industry recognized credential to a company, instead of just picking up a second major and studying something like, go do something right?

Jackie Bailey 31:54
Absolutely, yeah, find ways to serve in your community doing whatever you know, soup kitchen at Thanksgiving. Yes, whatever is, you will find opportunities and likely passions that you didn’t know you had. And I, for one, have learned that I have talents in areas I didn’t realize I had until I did some service for someone else and went, Oh, you know what? I kind of liked that that was kind of fun to do. I think I’ll do that again right now. Never have gone down that road without taking an opportunity to do some service.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 32:27
Wow, for sure, you guys are making that ripple effect to make the world a better place for the work that you’re doing with young people. If people want to learn more about how you help them come up with their signature talk or support students getting onto a TEDx stage. What’s the best way for them to keep in touch?

Jackie Bailey 32:46
Thank you again for that, because I do have a hub, a website that is condensed in all of my Well, the my social media platforms, the websites, even the retreats that we have. And you can also watch some of the TEDx talks of the kids and the adults that we’ve coached. And so it’s Jackie Bailey, 360,

Lisa Marker-Robbins 33:11
dot com, okay, I’m going to put it in the show notes too, so nobody, if you’re driving, don’t do something dangerous. It’ll be in the show

Jackie Bailey 33:20
notes, yeah, yeah. So you can look at all of not all of them, but a lot of the most recent speeches of our TEDx kids and adults, and my TEDx talk, as well as some of the things that I’ve done our podcast, which is called in the group with Todd and Jackie. All of those things you can find out and even our coaching programs are all listed there as well, so it’s an easy way for you to learn about what we’re doing and the ways that it might benefit you. And you know as you as these young people move toward forward into their career. Yeah, communication is not optional, so you have to be able to communicate, and again, knowing your signature talk is another way to improve your communication, because you’re going to be able to feel more confident in a job interview, because you don’t have to just answer yes or no, you can actually go back to that library of stories that you have in your brain and pull out one that is relevant to this question, and give a real life story example to answer that question. And I was in HR for a while in my career, and, you know, we didn’t necessarily, I looked at lots of resumes, and I would see experience and qualifications, as far as you know, being able to do certain things and have certain skills. But the most important part was, Is this person going to talk to me, and do I feel like they’re going to be a team player with the rest of the team that I’m, you know, trying to put a person? Yeah, are you a contributor? Exactly? And so. So having those skills as you move forward in your career, again, it’s going to help you to understand your passion and find it at each stage of life, but you’re also going to be recognized as a leader, as someone who can work well with other people, and someone who’s going to fill the need that that organization, that company, whatever needs, and you’re going to be the one to do that, and they’ll be able to see that. So having that signature talk in in your heart, and know what you would say is, is vital all the way through life.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 35:34
I love it. Well, Jackie, thanks for coming on the show. So appreciate it in the work that you’re doing in the world.

Jackie Bailey 35:41
Lisa, I appreciate you. You know you gave me a stage today, and I appreciate that, because every time I get to speak about the things I do, I heal from my personal trauma a little bit more, and I get to give and contribute a little bit more to the planet. So thank you for the opportunity. You’re so

Speaker 1 36:00
so so welcome.

Lisa Marker-Robbins 36:07
As you heard from Jackie, helping a young person shape a signature talk is about much more than getting on a stage. It’s about knowing who they are, what they value, and how their experiences have prepared them to contribute in this world, that kind of clarity helps make college essays easier to write, interviews less intimidating, and career decisions more aligned with who they really are. If you want weekly support to keep these conversations going at home, I would love to invite you to subscribe to our newsletter at flourish coaching co com forward slash newsletter. It’ll also be in the show notes each week I send a meaningful conversation cue that you can use with your family, just like the questions that Jackie and I discussed today. I also encourage you to visit Jackie listen to one of her young speakers, TEDx talks. Watching a young person tell their story with confidence is a powerful way to spark self awareness in your own child and to help them see how their story can connect to future career purpose. Thanks for listening and for caring so deeply about launching your young person well you.

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